1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:10,930 [Music] 2 00:00:17,420 --> 00:00:14,570 one thing I like about AB grad con is 3 00:00:20,060 --> 00:00:17,430 the audiences is pretty chill so we're 4 00:00:22,610 --> 00:00:20,070 all grad students undergrads so I get to 5 00:00:24,830 --> 00:00:22,620 experiment with how I do presentations 6 00:00:26,570 --> 00:00:24,840 so I need first I need some audience 7 00:00:32,630 --> 00:00:26,580 participation 8 00:00:37,759 --> 00:00:32,640 can someone give me a letter hey Jay 9 00:00:44,599 --> 00:00:37,769 okay another lender okay now a number 10 00:00:48,619 --> 00:00:44,609 between one mm I knew someone was gonna 11 00:00:54,559 --> 00:00:48,629 say that I'm gonna go with 13 another 12 00:01:00,099 --> 00:00:54,569 letter you okay this is great 13 00:01:01,399 --> 00:01:00,109 all right now hot or cold hot all right 14 00:01:05,320 --> 00:01:01,409 perfect 15 00:01:07,340 --> 00:01:05,330 okay so I'm going to talk about color 16 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:07,350 I'm gonna be talking about in a couple 17 00:01:13,130 --> 00:01:10,170 of contexts all related to exoplanet 18 00:01:16,010 --> 00:01:13,140 habitability I'll be talking about how 19 00:01:18,020 --> 00:01:16,020 we can use it to classify things now and 20 00:01:22,010 --> 00:01:18,030 how I'm using it in some models to 21 00:01:24,470 --> 00:01:22,020 classify things in a future and I want 22 00:01:29,710 --> 00:01:24,480 to do it or telling the story of a 23 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:29,720 planet just recently discovered JC 13q 24 00:01:35,420 --> 00:01:33,210 meaning it's there's many planets in 25 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:35,430 this system it's probably the most 26 00:01:39,590 --> 00:01:37,170 impressive planetary system ever 27 00:01:42,860 --> 00:01:39,600 discovered and it has this habitable 28 00:01:45,290 --> 00:01:42,870 planet it's totally real it's there it's 29 00:01:47,900 --> 00:01:45,300 got life teeming on it but how are we 30 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:47,910 gonna know how do we figure out that 31 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:52,650 it's there so right now we can't really 32 00:01:58,700 --> 00:01:55,050 make detection zuv what the composition 33 00:02:00,560 --> 00:01:58,710 yeah this feels like we have a range you 34 00:02:03,050 --> 00:02:00,570 know we can detect habitability out to 35 00:02:06,110 --> 00:02:03,060 like zero lightyears 36 00:02:09,150 --> 00:02:06,120 so this planets much further than that 37 00:02:12,150 --> 00:02:09,160 so what we can do now is we sort of can 38 00:02:15,150 --> 00:02:12,160 make guesses and leader people like 39 00:02:16,830 --> 00:02:15,160 Claire will you know use telescopes to 40 00:02:19,350 --> 00:02:16,840 actually make the detection and confirm 41 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:19,360 our guesses so as we build up these 42 00:02:25,980 --> 00:02:22,090 guesses we're sort of building a library 43 00:02:28,140 --> 00:02:25,990 of sort of pictures of what potentially 44 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:28,150 habitable planets could look like and 45 00:02:32,010 --> 00:02:29,770 then we have this reference catalog it's 46 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:32,020 like sort of like an Autobahn guide like 47 00:02:35,250 --> 00:02:33,730 we're building up you know reference 48 00:02:36,660 --> 00:02:35,260 pictures and then you go out in the wild 49 00:02:40,710 --> 00:02:36,670 you actually observe something and you 50 00:02:42,810 --> 00:02:40,720 try to match it as close as you can so 51 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:42,820 the first thing you sort of want to do 52 00:02:46,770 --> 00:02:44,250 is you want to have like ground truths 53 00:02:49,110 --> 00:02:46,780 to what you wanted to do first we need 54 00:02:51,300 --> 00:02:49,120 to actually find some real planets and 55 00:02:53,640 --> 00:02:51,310 what do those look like first so we have 56 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:53,650 a solar system that's pretty diverse we 57 00:03:00,510 --> 00:02:56,370 do have a habitable planet which is nice 58 00:03:03,180 --> 00:03:00,520 so some of the earlier work we did was 59 00:03:06,420 --> 00:03:03,190 actually look at our neighbors stuff in 60 00:03:09,180 --> 00:03:06,430 our own solar system to see what they'd 61 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:09,190 look like as exoplanets so we calculated 62 00:03:14,130 --> 00:03:11,370 geometric adios for the 19 different 63 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:14,140 solar system objects you you know the 64 00:03:19,740 --> 00:03:16,210 planets some dwarf planets a bunch of 65 00:03:21,150 --> 00:03:19,750 moons to sort of build this you know 66 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:21,160 picture of what our solar system looks 67 00:03:26,900 --> 00:03:24,610 like and then we use that to model what 68 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:26,910 they would look like around other stars 69 00:03:32,640 --> 00:03:28,770 and here's our 70 00:03:34,500 --> 00:03:32,650 JC 13 cute is down here so it doesn't 71 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:34,510 have the spectra of x3 when I figure out 72 00:03:39,449 --> 00:03:38,290 what that's gonna be like so we reaffirm 73 00:03:41,370 --> 00:03:39,459 and rip one of the things that you can 74 00:03:42,750 --> 00:03:41,380 do with just something as simple as 75 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:42,760 looking at our own solar system and 76 00:03:46,350 --> 00:03:44,530 that's distinguishing different types of 77 00:03:48,420 --> 00:03:46,360 surfaces it's gonna be one of the first 78 00:03:52,199 --> 00:03:48,430 steps when you find an exoplanets here's 79 00:03:54,420 --> 00:03:52,209 a rocky as a gaseous as an icy so even 80 00:03:56,580 --> 00:03:54,430 with something as simple as one of these 81 00:04:00,540 --> 00:03:56,590 colors so people might not be familiar 82 00:04:03,890 --> 00:04:00,550 with this rnj these are just different 83 00:04:06,570 --> 00:04:03,900 filter bands you essentially just take 84 00:04:08,820 --> 00:04:06,580 your spectra of the planet you have a 85 00:04:12,270 --> 00:04:08,830 filter man you just integrate over that 86 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:12,280 and it's just this broad broad spectra 87 00:04:16,590 --> 00:04:13,690 thank you think of like a very low 88 00:04:18,550 --> 00:04:16,600 resolution spectra and this is just you 89 00:04:20,710 --> 00:04:18,560 know a reddish color and this is 90 00:04:23,590 --> 00:04:20,720 for red and here's a couple more 91 00:04:25,390 --> 00:04:23,600 infrared so even with this very low 92 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:25,400 resolution spectral data you can 93 00:04:31,150 --> 00:04:28,490 distinguish different surface types so 94 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:31,160 it's something we can do using objects 95 00:04:37,890 --> 00:04:34,610 in our own solar system but there's this 96 00:04:41,020 --> 00:04:37,900 can only go so far so if you have a 97 00:04:43,500 --> 00:04:41,030 planet that has any sort of atmosphere 98 00:04:45,190 --> 00:04:43,510 and you change the light source that 99 00:04:48,280 --> 00:04:45,200 chemistry is going to be a little 100 00:04:50,860 --> 00:04:48,290 different we can do things you know for 101 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:50,870 rocky planets like that don't have much 102 00:04:54,280 --> 00:04:52,010 of an atmosphere that's not gonna change 103 00:04:56,590 --> 00:04:54,290 much in terms of its colors if you put 104 00:04:57,790 --> 00:04:56,600 on a different star you can adjust for 105 00:04:59,680 --> 00:04:57,800 how the lights going to be different 106 00:05:02,500 --> 00:04:59,690 there's no chemistry really changing the 107 00:05:05,980 --> 00:05:02,510 atmosphere because there isn't any so if 108 00:05:08,860 --> 00:05:05,990 you really want to look at something 109 00:05:12,700 --> 00:05:08,870 like our planet which is around a hot 110 00:05:15,250 --> 00:05:12,710 star so it's a lot hotter than our own 111 00:05:19,540 --> 00:05:15,260 Sun so the light that's hitting it's 112 00:05:22,210 --> 00:05:19,550 going to be different so if you look at 113 00:05:24,340 --> 00:05:22,220 the models that we're using to simulate 114 00:05:28,260 --> 00:05:24,350 what those atmospheres would look like 115 00:05:30,670 --> 00:05:28,270 for habitable exoplanets we find that 116 00:05:34,330 --> 00:05:30,680 they're they're sort of not good enough 117 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:34,340 they do do the job of changing the 118 00:05:39,190 --> 00:05:36,289 chemistry of the atmosphere you can sort 119 00:05:42,730 --> 00:05:39,200 of model how that that light is going to 120 00:05:45,070 --> 00:05:42,740 change the chemistry but they they lack 121 00:05:49,719 --> 00:05:45,080 another key feature which is the surface 122 00:05:52,210 --> 00:05:49,729 albedo spectral information that points 123 00:05:57,490 --> 00:05:52,220 a huge role in how the climate becomes 124 00:05:59,500 --> 00:05:57,500 stable so to our model the planet kind 125 00:06:03,070 --> 00:05:59,510 of looks like this it's gray it's just 126 00:06:05,620 --> 00:06:03,080 there's no color information for the 127 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:05,630 surface it's just a single value that 128 00:06:09,190 --> 00:06:07,010 you're using to treat the entire 129 00:06:12,250 --> 00:06:09,200 reflectivity of the surface it's a 130 00:06:14,379 --> 00:06:12,260 single number we want it to look like it 131 00:06:16,740 --> 00:06:14,389 is something like less you know much 132 00:06:20,770 --> 00:06:16,750 more close to what it's actually like 133 00:06:24,820 --> 00:06:20,780 but we do use one dimensional models so 134 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:24,830 it's more like this and we want it to be 135 00:06:29,410 --> 00:06:25,970 like this 136 00:06:30,850 --> 00:06:29,420 so there's that still improvement and 137 00:06:33,610 --> 00:06:30,860 there's there's a good reason to believe 138 00:06:36,220 --> 00:06:33,620 that this just adding this color 139 00:06:39,550 --> 00:06:36,230 information for the surface is going to 140 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:39,560 alter the climate over our planets a lot 141 00:06:46,180 --> 00:06:42,610 so I'll do a little bit more complicated 142 00:06:50,100 --> 00:06:46,190 albedo diagram than what amber showed so 143 00:06:53,170 --> 00:06:50,110 we have our Sun here you know all the 144 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:53,180 incoming energy is hitting the planet 145 00:06:57,820 --> 00:06:55,570 here which is gray have our atmosphere 146 00:07:00,460 --> 00:06:57,830 and so what all these lines are telling 147 00:07:01,930 --> 00:07:00,470 you is like there's you know hitting the 148 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:01,940 top of the atmosphere we have all the 149 00:07:05,980 --> 00:07:04,130 energy from the Sun there's some being 150 00:07:07,930 --> 00:07:05,990 absorbed by the atmosphere and reflected 151 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:07,940 off some is being absorbed by the 152 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:09,650 surface somes being reflected by the 153 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:12,050 surface and here we have longer 154 00:07:18,250 --> 00:07:15,050 wavelengths the infrared being emitted 155 00:07:19,780 --> 00:07:18,260 from the warm surface absorbed by the 156 00:07:22,810 --> 00:07:19,790 atmosphere and re-emitted by the 157 00:07:28,980 --> 00:07:22,820 atmosphere or then directly you know 158 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:28,990 radiated out into space so if we change 159 00:07:35,500 --> 00:07:33,770 the Starlight that's good we have a gray 160 00:07:38,820 --> 00:07:35,510 planet here so we don't have any 161 00:07:40,990 --> 00:07:38,830 interaction between the albedo and the 162 00:07:42,850 --> 00:07:41,000 changing star like it's gonna be pretty 163 00:07:46,300 --> 00:07:42,860 much the same we can model how the 164 00:07:49,630 --> 00:07:46,310 atmosphere is going to change here if we 165 00:07:52,780 --> 00:07:49,640 add color to the planet now we don't 166 00:07:54,190 --> 00:07:52,790 know exactly how you know there's going 167 00:07:56,110 --> 00:07:54,200 to be changes in how much is getting 168 00:07:57,850 --> 00:07:56,120 absorbed by the surface what's being 169 00:08:00,130 --> 00:07:57,860 reflected and that's it going to be 170 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:00,140 affecting how much is then being reread 171 00:08:04,630 --> 00:08:02,210 yet but a surface and then escaping into 172 00:08:07,390 --> 00:08:04,640 space and this is where you're setting 173 00:08:09,610 --> 00:08:07,400 habitability constraints as well because 174 00:08:12,159 --> 00:08:09,620 you this is controlling you order 175 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:12,169 surface temperature and that's gonna be 176 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:13,610 what you need for habitability in them 177 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:15,410 I'm saying habitability I should define 178 00:08:20,050 --> 00:08:18,050 that like surface water if you have 179 00:08:24,990 --> 00:08:20,060 water on the surface we'll call that 180 00:08:28,919 --> 00:08:25,000 habitable so to look at this in more 181 00:08:33,879 --> 00:08:33,100 we have different star spectra here so 182 00:08:36,939 --> 00:08:33,889 our planet 183 00:08:39,459 --> 00:08:36,949 JC 13q is around a hotter star so it's 184 00:08:42,639 --> 00:08:39,469 gonna be like an F star this is gonna be 185 00:08:45,850 --> 00:08:42,649 this spectra here we have microns 0.5 to 186 00:08:48,069 --> 00:08:45,860 2.5 s this is your infrared and this is 187 00:08:49,749 --> 00:08:48,079 this the relative flux for these 188 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:49,759 different stars you have the Sun here in 189 00:08:57,699 --> 00:08:54,850 white and then a cooler start here red 190 00:08:59,170 --> 00:08:57,709 so you can see that they're emitting the 191 00:09:01,290 --> 00:08:59,180 different light is gonna be playing the 192 00:09:04,449 --> 00:09:01,300 planet around these different stories 193 00:09:06,970 --> 00:09:04,459 here down here we have the reflectance 194 00:09:10,689 --> 00:09:06,980 so this is that surface color surface 195 00:09:12,490 --> 00:09:10,699 albedo I have this dashed line is the 196 00:09:16,150 --> 00:09:12,500 flat this is what the model is used 197 00:09:18,090 --> 00:09:16,160 right now it's just a gray surface it's 198 00:09:22,780 --> 00:09:18,100 reflecting exactly the same in all 199 00:09:24,490 --> 00:09:22,790 wavelengths and here I have an earth 200 00:09:27,550 --> 00:09:24,500 model that's at the resolution of what 201 00:09:32,290 --> 00:09:27,560 our models sort of look at you do the 202 00:09:34,210 --> 00:09:32,300 radiative transfer at so let's go let's 203 00:09:36,699 --> 00:09:34,220 go for this Sun let's start with the Sun 204 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:36,709 so if the Sun spectra is hitting the 205 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:39,290 flat that's okay that's what our models 206 00:09:43,900 --> 00:09:41,689 had all been built to do all these 207 00:09:46,090 --> 00:09:43,910 models are coming from Earth around the 208 00:09:48,670 --> 00:09:46,100 Sun they were used to simulate the 209 00:09:51,819 --> 00:09:48,680 Earth's climate and they've been sort of 210 00:09:55,780 --> 00:09:51,829 ad hoc let's just mesh together to 211 00:09:57,509 --> 00:09:55,790 create exoplanet models um so you can 212 00:10:01,300 --> 00:09:57,519 really tell that this is something that 213 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:01,310 is left over from you know when it was 214 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:02,569 just being used for Earth because this 215 00:10:05,949 --> 00:10:04,850 actually simulates fairly well you know 216 00:10:07,870 --> 00:10:05,959 the surface temperature that you get 217 00:10:11,650 --> 00:10:07,880 players so that's okay if we have this 218 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:11,660 one we can use the flat fine if we 219 00:10:18,850 --> 00:10:16,610 change the star and it's still flat 220 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:18,860 there's really not much interaction here 221 00:10:24,939 --> 00:10:22,250 it's you can you know every every change 222 00:10:28,530 --> 00:10:24,949 that's occurring is just just captured 223 00:10:33,939 --> 00:10:28,540 by the star but if we have a changing 224 00:10:36,340 --> 00:10:33,949 albedo say this Paris model you can see 225 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:36,350 that if we change the star we're going 226 00:10:39,919 --> 00:10:38,290 to be absorbing and reflecting different 227 00:10:42,090 --> 00:10:39,929 in different parts of the spectrum now 228 00:10:46,199 --> 00:10:42,100 that's gonna be altering our surface 229 00:10:51,059 --> 00:10:46,209 temperature so if we have a cooler star 230 00:10:54,689 --> 00:10:51,069 this M star we see that we're absorbing 231 00:10:57,359 --> 00:10:54,699 more it's albedo is lower over here 232 00:10:59,609 --> 00:10:57,369 we're more the sunlight a star lights 233 00:11:01,229 --> 00:10:59,619 hitting so we're gonna be absorbing more 234 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:01,239 there so the planet should be hotter 235 00:11:07,229 --> 00:11:04,689 than if we had just used a flat and if 236 00:11:10,289 --> 00:11:07,239 we're around the star that our planets 237 00:11:12,900 --> 00:11:10,299 around where a lot of the flux is at 238 00:11:15,599 --> 00:11:12,910 these lower wavelengths or B we're 239 00:11:20,099 --> 00:11:15,609 reflecting a lot more so our planet 240 00:11:22,499 --> 00:11:20,109 should be cooler make sense and if we're 241 00:11:24,989 --> 00:11:22,509 using an earth model from your service o 242 00:11:27,479 --> 00:11:24,999 videos we use the Sun we should get a 243 00:11:28,769 --> 00:11:27,489 same surface temperature as we did for 244 00:11:33,659 --> 00:11:28,779 the flat because that's how the flat 245 00:11:36,439 --> 00:11:33,669 model was chosen so we expect for 246 00:11:41,429 --> 00:11:36,449 something like this albedo we expect 247 00:11:46,529 --> 00:11:41,439 cooler stars to be hotter and hotter 248 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:46,539 stars bluer stars to be colder and 249 00:11:51,509 --> 00:11:48,970 that's exactly what we see when we 250 00:11:53,369 --> 00:11:51,519 change the models to accept this 251 00:11:57,569 --> 00:11:53,379 wavelength dependent surface that we 252 00:12:00,449 --> 00:11:57,579 don't so here I have this is temperature 253 00:12:04,049 --> 00:12:00,459 deviation from between the flat model 254 00:12:07,319 --> 00:12:04,059 and the wavelength dependent model this 255 00:12:10,109 --> 00:12:07,329 is a surface temperature deviation as 256 00:12:12,629 --> 00:12:10,119 you can see for M stars these cooler 257 00:12:15,689 --> 00:12:12,639 stars the surface temperatures are 258 00:12:17,369 --> 00:12:15,699 hotter and for the f stars the hotter 259 00:12:22,309 --> 00:12:17,379 stars the surface temperature is cooler 260 00:12:25,199 --> 00:12:22,319 this is so this is using the earth model 261 00:12:30,899 --> 00:12:25,209 comparing it to the flat so we have 262 00:12:34,199 --> 00:12:30,909 hotter cooler and the Sun the 0.3 albedo 263 00:12:35,579 --> 00:12:34,209 that you saw here that's has been around 264 00:12:38,219 --> 00:12:35,589 for a while and that's been calibrated 265 00:12:41,009 --> 00:12:38,229 to give you the same surface temperature 266 00:12:44,189 --> 00:12:41,019 as what the earth now if you had used a 267 00:12:46,829 --> 00:12:44,199 really accurate earth model so this is 268 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:46,839 pretty big this is you know this is 269 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:50,650 changing how you would define sort of 270 00:12:53,390 --> 00:12:52,810 if you're using wavelength dependent up 271 00:12:55,890 --> 00:12:53,400 you go 272 00:12:57,840 --> 00:12:55,900 now instead of just using a flat line if 273 00:13:01,320 --> 00:12:57,850 you had something that more represented 274 00:13:03,420 --> 00:13:01,330 what the surface actually looks like so 275 00:13:07,110 --> 00:13:03,430 what does that mean for our planet 276 00:13:09,810 --> 00:13:07,120 JC 13q it's got so many neighbors around 277 00:13:11,940 --> 00:13:09,820 and I was thinking someone is someone's 278 00:13:13,560 --> 00:13:11,950 gonna pick a really like late letter 279 00:13:14,730 --> 00:13:13,570 we're just gonna have a lot of planets 280 00:13:16,590 --> 00:13:14,740 in this system so there's probably 281 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:16,600 multiple there's even multiple planets 282 00:13:23,190 --> 00:13:18,610 in the habitable zone for this so what 283 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:23,200 is this mean we don't know what the 284 00:13:29,580 --> 00:13:26,370 surface is going to be for this planet 285 00:13:31,890 --> 00:13:29,590 we have an idea of what happens surface 286 00:13:34,500 --> 00:13:31,900 might look like so we could use an earth 287 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:34,510 model but we can also look at how this 288 00:13:39,780 --> 00:13:37,090 line changes for different types of 289 00:13:41,700 --> 00:13:39,790 services maybe there's more ocean 290 00:13:43,110 --> 00:13:41,710 there's less ocean maybe there's more 291 00:13:45,990 --> 00:13:43,120 vegetation maybe there's less of 292 00:13:49,140 --> 00:13:46,000 education deserts stuff like that so we 293 00:13:51,780 --> 00:13:49,150 can sort of look at the different 294 00:13:54,540 --> 00:13:51,790 spectra that are around us use those as 295 00:13:57,480 --> 00:13:54,550 surface albedo and see how they would 296 00:14:01,560 --> 00:13:57,490 change the habitability of a planet 297 00:14:04,350 --> 00:14:01,570 using this new method internet'll so 298 00:14:06,990 --> 00:14:04,360 I'll just leave some ring up here thank 299 00:14:11,430 --> 00:14:07,000 you thank you to my discovery team for 300 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:14,330 [Applause] 301 00:14:28,970 --> 00:14:24,310 Hey 302 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:28,980 very cool presentation thank you are you 303 00:14:34,220 --> 00:14:31,290 planning on using your model to any 304 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:34,230 extra work so planet any actual 305 00:14:40,670 --> 00:14:36,690 exoplanets yes 306 00:14:43,010 --> 00:14:40,680 we are using it to model some of the 307 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:43,020 recently found exercise and what did you 308 00:14:46,790 --> 00:14:44,330 find 309 00:14:49,130 --> 00:14:46,800 well we're sort of in the parent 310 00:14:52,010 --> 00:14:49,140 luminary stages of testing it you know 311 00:14:55,420 --> 00:14:52,020 trying out different surfaces um simple 312 00:14:57,500 --> 00:14:55,430 way we've been using it for current 313 00:15:00,860 --> 00:14:57,510 exoplanets is to use something that's 314 00:15:03,290 --> 00:15:00,870 similar to earth for now but that's 315 00:15:06,050 --> 00:15:03,300 still better than using a flat so we're 316 00:15:09,050 --> 00:15:06,060 we're taking it one step at a time yeah 317 00:15:11,090 --> 00:15:09,060 okay yeah we are we are finding that you 318 00:15:13,460 --> 00:15:11,100 know it is changing so a five degree 319 00:15:17,450 --> 00:15:13,470 difference in surface temperature can be 320 00:15:19,010 --> 00:15:17,460 pretty big for habitability um so it 321 00:15:20,900 --> 00:15:19,020 does make a pretty big difference if 322 00:15:42,540 --> 00:15:20,910 you're on dem stars which are very 323 00:15:48,330 --> 00:15:45,540 hi so I know this may be kind of a silly 324 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:48,340 question but I'm just curious if when 325 00:15:57,720 --> 00:15:49,930 you're talking about like unserviceable 326 00:16:06,240 --> 00:15:57,730 yo are you including cloud cover and yes 327 00:16:11,070 --> 00:16:06,250 we're so if we go back to this if you've 328 00:16:13,140 --> 00:16:11,080 seen a an earth albedo that's helped me 329 00:16:17,420 --> 00:16:13,150 know it's actually very low it would 330 00:16:20,490 --> 00:16:17,430 look something more like yes so this has 331 00:16:23,490 --> 00:16:20,500 clouds incorporated into its albedo to 332 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:23,500 get it to match a surface temperature 333 00:16:31,620 --> 00:16:27,130 that is the same as what we find for so 334 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:31,630 we use a cloud coverage of approximately 335 00:16:35,970 --> 00:16:33,610 what we see today around like 50 percent 336 00:16:37,620 --> 00:16:35,980 cloud coverage and if we do that it 337 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:37,630 actually gives us the same surface 338 00:16:44,130 --> 00:16:41,050 temperature which was a nice check but 339 00:16:48,030 --> 00:16:44,140 it is still not it's not like a cloud 340 00:16:49,980 --> 00:16:48,040 layer in the model there is work on 341 00:16:52,740 --> 00:16:49,990 incorporating those it's a very 342 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:52,750 difficult problem so there isn't a super 343 00:16:57,780 --> 00:16:54,370 good solution yet on how to incorporate 344 00:17:07,750 --> 00:16:57,790 it into a 1d model but it's being worked 345 00:17:13,510 --> 00:17:09,970 um on your slide where you are showing 346 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:13,520 the different filters it looked like you 347 00:17:20,439 --> 00:17:18,410 had gas ice and rocky does that mean 348 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:20,449 that you are not taking into account 349 00:17:26,159 --> 00:17:22,850 water world's or are they considered 350 00:17:28,690 --> 00:17:26,169 part of ice so these are just the 351 00:17:30,100 --> 00:17:28,700 planets in our own solar system there 352 00:17:32,260 --> 00:17:30,110 are objects in our own solar system ice 353 00:17:34,299 --> 00:17:32,270 there are some moons here there's a lot 354 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:34,309 more dots than 19 because there's some 355 00:17:39,580 --> 00:17:36,770 multiple observations you know this is 356 00:17:43,210 --> 00:17:39,590 like a Neptune or something like this 357 00:17:44,590 --> 00:17:43,220 cluster so yeah each one of these is one 358 00:17:49,390 --> 00:17:44,600 of the objects in our solar system that 359 00:17:54,220 --> 00:17:49,400 I had on this but if you did have it so 360 00:17:58,570 --> 00:17:54,230 earth is pretty much it's very close to 361 00:18:01,450 --> 00:17:58,580 a water world and we put it in the rocky 362 00:18:05,850 --> 00:18:01,460 group and it it matches up which is 363 00:18:09,190 --> 00:18:05,860 interesting because water and these 364 00:18:11,980 --> 00:18:09,200 wavelength ranges looks very close to 365 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:11,990 rock it's actually very it's just very 366 00:18:16,510 --> 00:18:14,210 dark it just absorbs everything so 367 00:18:18,370 --> 00:18:16,520 that's a lot of what these rocks 368 00:18:21,070 --> 00:18:18,380 actually look like so if that's an 369 00:18:23,020 --> 00:18:21,080 interesting question to disentangle if 370 00:18:25,060 --> 00:18:23,030 you had just these to work with how can 371 00:18:32,420 --> 00:18:25,070 you distinguish between a water world